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Kaleberg's avatar

General relativity is weird. Quantum mechanics is eerie.

I'll also quote a tweet from Erkhyan Rafosa (@Erkhyan):

"It’s funny how recognizing AI nowadays is just the same old rules as recognizing the fae in old tales. 'Count the fingers, count the knuckles…'"

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John Kozak's avatar

Do many artists actually claim explicit intention though? I'm thinking of D H Lawrence's "Not I but the wind that blows through me", but lots of other examples.

And vice versa, some early uses of "planchette" treated it as a proper noun, capitalised and given agency - Anthony Powell does this.

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Sean Mann's avatar

Many thanks for pointing out Ted Chiang's piece. I'm a big fan of his work, but hadn't seen that one. I have trouble agreeing with the idea that there could be no agency, but I loved reading through your reasoning. I wrote a few months back about how I thought AI was just an abstraction of the human labor involved. Without all the underlying labor it wouldn't exist (original text/art plus labeling data and correcting models), so to me it is more a tool used by capitalists to pretend that humans aren't needed, rather than anything that could have its own agency independent of the people creating/directing it. You can read some of my thoughts here if you're interested https://open.substack.com/pub/bathruminations/p/review-of-omon-ra?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=jxqbu

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Jason Smith's avatar

I gave a talk at UW Econ a few years ago that (as an aside) used a particular ML algorithm (GANs) as a model for how supply and demand work and relating it to information theory

https://informationtransfereconomics.blogspot.com/2018/10/outside-box-workshop.html

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