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Disclaimer - I have not read Allen's book. I will try to read it.

Based on your description however - I find these kinds of "more democracy" ideas a little hard to swallow.

Allen's approach (again assuming I'm grokking correctly) seems to require a massive increase in the complexity of government, since we will need to "redesign the rules of governance," including the "rules organizing the microinteractions of the economy" and the "organizational protocols of civil society," in order to "remove or at least lessen the operating forces of domination."

Ignoring for a moment the incredible practical difficulty in implementing such a plan - this would be extremely unpopular if subjected to democratic vote! - this reads to me as an underfit, over-engineered solution to the most salient problems of neoliberalism. Those problems are many, but in a world historical sense, do not include domination. This isn't to say that domination isn't a strong feature of neoliberal life, but simply that contemporary American economic and social arrangements feature less outright domination than perhaps any competing society in human history.

The problem, as both Allen and Deneen point out, is something closer to spiritual control - a sense that one's life has a purpose and that one is able to make progress against that purpose in a sufficiently free manner. Deneen is correct I think in his analysis that extreme political freedom is neither necessary nor sufficient to achieve this kind of spiritual control. But he is both morally misguided and practically wrong in proposing a conservative theocracy as the solution. 21st century Westerners are not going back to that arrangement, nor should they.

A more fruitful approach IMO would be to try to find other methods to achieve spiritual control within the existing neoliberal system, which for all its flaws, has actually performed very well across a number of important vectors (poverty reduction, minority rights, geopolitical stability). I like Allen's notion of getting individuals more agency and involvement in their day-to-day life, but I struggle to see "democracy" as the right lens for this. Hierarchy exists in at-scale political systems for good reason; it needs to be balanced with egalitarianism but it is impossible to avoid completely. In other spheres of life however - spheres like family, art, community, that do not function at scale - hierarchy can be more effectively suppressed in favor of egalitarian decision making.

These spheres are precisely the social functions which have been sidelined by neoliberalism, because they don't produce the kind of profit (or material well-being, if we're being more generous) that the system optimizes to. This has been, broadly speaking, a disaster. But I don't see any reason why we need to completely reorder society in order to return focus to these other historically dominant parts of life. If you could even get back to say 1960s levels of community participation, that would be a massive win.

I find it much easier to imagine successful social movements intended to re-emphasize non-scale community, than the total upheaval of our political system in favor of theocracy or some form of deliberate democracy. Apologies of course if I'm misreading Allen - I will try to read her book ASAP.

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It seems to me that this excellent original post would be enriched with even a few sentences on neoliberalism's multifarious definitions (It's an approach to economic policy! It's a cultural system! It's a political order!) and to neoliberalism's Hayekian and ordo-liberal roots as an attempt to maintain the rule and safety of capital over the rule and interests of the demos.

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