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John Quiggin's avatar

AI has reproduced, yet again, the idea that the median view of the US political class has some normative claim to centrality. Both Grok (far-right) and DeepSeek (CCP) have shown that it is perfectly possible to give answers reflecting different background assumptions. But people still "Ask ChatGPT" and expect to receive objective truth.

A central question here is: which country is being represented? On the assumption that the US is already a write-off, it's important to develop digital representations of the democratic world which don't depend on the whims of fascist billionaires.

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Well, thanks; this was eye-opening for me in this way: that there are idealists endeavoring to have this powerful thig do good.

My impression from reading the statements of the 'big important men' in ai is that there's a thinking that they are creating, even incarnating, a powerful thing that's under their control. It will consume terabytes of electric energy to do so, with consequences for most of our fellow rate-base members. As in higher costs or routine disconnects from the grid for those who've found some cost relief by signing up for the peak- load- period disconnect rate. There's not enough capacity to keep grandma warmed or cooled to feed Andreesen's new theology.

To civic representation: I've known for twenty+ years that there was sufficient computing power in ESRI's ArcView GIS software that any reasonably- sized civil engineering firm or local or state government agency could take Census survey data and crank out rightly apportioned, logical, easily understood voter districts to more equitably insure a representative distribution by area and population. A map, if you will. And it could be done by a small team or teams within a year, and updated every ten years in a matter of days.

But that doesn't allow for the jiggery-pokery of people who wish to concentrate power for their particular purposes- which more and more appear to be about the accumulation of unholy concentrations of money. Which is what it appears that the owners of this new cool thing want now for themselves.

Sincerely, thanks for this discussion. Think I'm going to pick up another good Aladdin kero lamp from the Amish hardware store, and another five gallons of K-1 in addition to finishing up my woodshed project and split and stack the two cords of free -fall oak and ash. Winter's coming.

Tim Long, just up the hill from Lock 15.

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