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Dave Karpf's avatar

One additional hypothesis I’d throw in the mix: this is a post-ZIRP adjustment.

Silicon Valley also got very comfortable with military spending after the dotcom crash.

The VC investments froze, and then post-9/11, there was a ton of government money for anyone who could promise surveillance or network analysis applications.

Then we had two decades of free investment money (along with the fallout from the Snowden revelations, as you mention.).

The free money ratcheted down in late ‘22. And, right on cue, the people who speak on behalf of Silicon Valley started talking up defense applications again.

I’m not saying it’s quite that simple, just that the ebb and flow of other sources of startup cash probably at-least-Granger-causes the rhetorical turn towards national interest arguments.

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Re: Crypto

I still have a strong suspicion bordering on belief that bitcoin was created by a US intel agency that goes by no such. Payments to spies and/or turncoats are always fraught with risk, especially with the rest of the world rapidly increasing financial surveillance capabilities. The model I have in mind is Tor - Tor by itself is useless as a method for secure comms from overseas spies, but Tor messages from spies mixed in with a witch's brew of cyber criminals, pedophiles and the privacy minded is a different story. Oh, right, and democracry advocates.

As for the Silicon Valley embrace of the national security state: I suggest watching either the shortened or the long version of the Mike Benz interview on Twitter: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1811807660808786311

If Benz' story is the least bit accurate - and I have a very hard time disputing it - then the Silicon Valley embrace started because of the post 2014 "disinformation censorship complex" move prompted by Putin's bloodless takeover of Crimea.

From there - the vast sums of money, political access and power and general elitist nonsense created a self sustaining cycle.

But I have very little faith in this generation's Silicon Valley technologists getting diddly squat accomplished in reality, as opposed to making money. Consider the self=driving car debacle - billions spent and that stuff still isn't working. In fact, it turns out you need more engineers than cars for "self driving" cars lol. The real impact of Schmidt's White Stork (likely more aptly called White Elephant or maybe White Whale) project is the allow Western drone pilots to steer more over-expensive, under-performing wunderwaffen from Creech AFB. Silicon Valley has never shown much skill in creating real world stuff outside of Musk - why does anyone think this will change with a focus on military drones?

The whole affair seems more like the protagonists' side in Arthur C Clarke's "Superiority" short story, or a software reprise of Tiger tanks vs. the T34.

For that matter - the original Silicon Valley contributions to military were the analog and gallium arsenide and germanium, as well as silicon, control systems for various military hardware.

Has that progressed much since the 1980s? I have a hard time seeing it.

Nor is it the least bit clear that the Intels and nVidias and what not are going to be able to do much to contribute when their focus is entirely on purely civilian single digit nanometer scale chips to be used for annually replaced civilian toys like iPhones. Again, outside of Musk, where are the fantastic digital transformative technologies that have arisen in the past 30 years? Facebook? lol

As someone who worked in chip design and then later with the semiconductor manufacturing industry - the desertification of the chip design ecosystem is worse, if anything, than the desertification of the manufacturing ecosystem.

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