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Eric Schwartz's avatar

I did read both columns, and I think your points are well taken. One reason I read Douthat is because he's intelligent, but he comes from a different perspective. I don't always agree with Ezra Klein but I think his points in this column are quite sound. I liked his referral back to the understanding of liberalism as inherently tied to tolerance. We need more of that - all the way around. Tolerance not for hateful behavior, but for different perspectives and values.

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Martiel's avatar

The question isn't whether the democratic party wants to appeal to as many votes as possible (aka winning elections), but how it gets there. And one challenge is that "liberality" is in tension with clarity of vision. This is where many leftists have the biggest disagreement with the Ezra Kleins of the world, which is that they argue that effective politicking doesn't happen primarily through negotiating across constituents, but rather through an energizing vision that different constituencies can get behind.

The second issue, particularly in the current moment is that politics isn't just about ideas and even interests, it can boil down to tangible rewards and punishments. Trump 2.0 makes this all too clear. A CEO who supports Trump will avoid becoming a target and might even get preferential treatment. Meanwhile, there's nearly no downside if the Democrats win. Contrast that to betting against Trump. Same goes for constituents. Even within the party, the big tent approach requires arm-twisting or rhetorical displine, but where's the weight behind the threats if it's all about mutual respect.

The appeal to big tent liberalism feels like a misdiagnosis of the challenges faced by democrats and the left. Trump has proven adept at attacking "big tent" opponents a clear vision or case. And the unwillingness (or inability) of democrats to commit to offense has emboldened opponents and alienated supporters. Yes--democrats need to connect with and stop chasing away voters. But that's one of many things they need.

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