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CHRIS's avatar

"an autocratic AI future with Chinese characteristics."

We see what you did there. ;^)

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Thank you for making the science article available. It would be interesting to know how many read it.

I was surprised that Science printed this as it had no bearing on any scientific discovery or finding. The main purpose was to say that LMs were cultural and social technologies [SCT} and therefore - to be investigated by sociologists. Science requires evidence, but the article provides no evidence for the claim but rather picks some technologies as past SCTs and claims LMs are similar. But how exactly beyond some rather vague claims of features? The concluding section "Looking Forward" uses a strawman argument of a binary POV to claim we would get more subtle and useful ways to discuss and work with such LMs as if this wasn't already happening.

I am not clear why some technologies are labeled SCTs and others, like steam engines, are neutral and not SCTs. The article doesn't provide any support for this assertion, where the null hypothesis might be that all technologies lay on a continuum within several axes including "social" and "cultural".

The references seem to cover a number of subjects, but it struck me that the Blodgett reference concerned "bias" in natural language processing, a somewhat different subject and published before deep neural networks were invented (2006) which are the forerunners of LLMs and not particularly applicable to what Brad DeLong calls MAMLMs and I think you use LMs which are beyond the LLM interface that Chiang compares well to lossy JPGs. Yes, bias exists because of the content slurped up, the RAG documents selected, and of course the HF action on training. Use different content and the bias will change direction. Force an LLM to only answer from selected documents in a database and the bias will depend on the content of those documents. I welcome that bias in STEM subjects, and I am biased in favor of democracy in politics even if Churchill's famous phrase is wrong.

I am sorry to be so critical of this piece, as your posts are well-written and erudite, which I enjoy reading.

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